Resurrection Power

Steven: In my mind, anyway, Jesus laid His life down, and then the Father resurrected. But He actually clearly states: I have power to lay down my life, and I have the power to bring it back up. So He already was given that ability to raise Himself back up. It wasn’t the Father raising Him up, He had already been given that ability.

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Kai: I would suspect that he was speaking as God, and He was seeing Himself as being one with the Father. He was speaking what the Father had said. And when He was resurrected, He was resurrected as man. He is God and man.

Scripture:

Joh 10:17-18 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. (18) No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Steven: When we first get saved, we really relate to the person of Jesus, because of the redemption, we really see ourselves from the role of seeing God as Judge, because we only can see God through sin. And then we are going through that transition of seeing God the Father as actually Father. So there is a transition in our walk with Christ, that we are slowly going from Jesus being our source to the Father being the source. Jesus just wanted us to be in that position where He was, that we are going straight to the Father. Knowing that Jesus is always that bridge, covering all those things that are causing us not to connect.

Kai: He is also the bridegroom, that is where the intimacy comes from. If a beautiful bride is going to marry into the family of the King, sho is going to be married to the Crown Prince. She has that special relationship to the King because she is the Bride of the Prince. The intimacy with her husband is the basis on which she has the relationship with the King. This is the same in our relationship with Christ. This relationship has its own richness and fullness.

Peggy: The Lord is now expanding the vision: Mary, I am expanding the vision now. Mary has that intimacy with Christ as being the Lover of her soul, and that’s what she wanted. But now, the Lord is saying, now we are going to multiply. It was expedient for me to die, but also to ascend back to the Father, so that the Holy Spirit can come, and voila, the Church. So we have to let go of what we once knew, so that God can expand the vision. In the midst of that intimacy your eyes get opened up to the greater vision, as you keep going and going. Mary so modeled what that is going to look like for us. We, no matter what, are sold out to Him, we want Him and we are not moved by anything but Him. But we let Him expand what He needs to expand.

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  • Kai Druhl Apr 22, 2014

    On reading our discussion on this post, a passage from Ephesians came to my mind, that somehow bridges the two points of view:

    Eph 1:19-20 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, (20) Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

    Here it is stated that the Father worked His mighty power in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead. Verse 19 points to the interpretation that it was an inward working of the Father’s power, which raised Christ. Jesus Himself said in John 10:18 that it was a commandment that He had received from the Father.

    The really fascinating thing is that this inward working resurrection power of God is also working in us, according to Eph 1:19. What we need is “the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him,” (Eph 1:17) for which Paul is praying.

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